When I came to San Diego I began showing and volunteering for SDAI under Shirly Viennese. Even then SDAI would show my work if a juror selected it. I was a board member, counter help, all around volunteer. After stepping away for a bit, I came back and started showing again. I also started volunteering and was hired occasionally as an independent contractor under Tim Fields and Kerstin Robers. I cleaned toilets, worked the register, and ran an Art Gym with Roberta Kuntz. SDAI has closed.